Some one had said that one can tell whether a person is a real Christian or not based solely on how well they know the Bible, and what the Bible says about the Jews and the promised land.. if you claim to be a Christian expert in this area you need to be aware, admit that the New Testament says almost nothing on the subject directly….
God said in the last days He would restore the Israelis to their land” is still a lie.. There is no such direct verse in the whole New Testament, and neither Jesus nor the Apostle confirmed this even..
In fact that was the reason Apostle Judas betrayed Jesus cause Jesus said my kingdom is not of this world, there was not going to be a restoration of the Jewish empire ever by jesus,, all those trying to present the restoration of Israel as the supposed truth is a big , big Lie.. they clearly lie that they even know the Bible.. or have actually studied the Bible itself..
Zionism is not a Christian doctrine, it is not found in the whole New Testament, it is a satanic doctrine from the pits of hell..
The central theme for the Jews of the Old Testament , the Talmud, their Holy Books is the coming of the Messiah and the establishment of the Jewish Kingdom of God among the people of the world
According to the old testament Jews and their traditions “The word “Messiah” does not mean “savior.” The notion of an innocent, divine or semi-divine being who will sacrifice himself to save us from the consequences of our own sins is a concept that has no basis in the Jewish thought “The Messiah will be a great political leader descended from King David (Jeremiah 23:5). The Messiah is often referred to as “Messiah ben David” (Messiah, son of David). He will be well-versed in Jewish law, and observant of its commandments. (Isaiah 11:2-5) He will be a charismatic leader, inspiring others to follow his example. He will be a great military leader, who will win battles for Israel. He will be a great judge, who makes righteous decisions (Jeremiah 33:15). But above all, he will be a human being, not a god, demi-god or other supernatural being…The Messiah will bring about the political and spiritual redemption of the Jewish people by bringing us back to Israel and restoring Jerusalem (Isaiah 11:11-12; Jeremiah 23:8; 30:3; Hosea 3:4-5). He will establish a government in Israel that will be the center of all world government, both for Jews and gentiles (Isaiah 2:2-4; 11:10; 42:1). He will rebuild the Temple and re-establish its worship (Jeremiah 33:18). He will restore the religious court system of Israel and establish Jewish law as the law of the land (Jeremiah 33:15).”; The world after the Messiah comes is often referred to in Jewish literature as Olam Ha-Ba (oh-LAHM hah-BAH), the World to Come. This term can cause some confusion, because it is also used to refer to a spiritual afterlife. In English, we commonly use the term “messianic age” to refer specifically to the time of the Messiah. Olam Ha-Ba will be characterized by the peaceful co-existence of all people. (Isaiah 2:4) Hatred, intolerance and war will cease to exist. Some authorities suggest that the laws of nature will change, so that predatory beasts will no longer seek prey and agriculture will bring forth supernatural abundance (Isaiah 11:6-11:9).
Others, however, say that these statements are merely an allegory for peace and prosperity. They the Jews do falsely dream that All of the Jewish people will return from their exile among the nations to their home in Israel (Isaiah 11:11-12; Jeremiah 23:8; 30:3; Hosea 3:4-5). The law of the Jubilee will be reinstated. In the Olam Ha-Ba, the whole world will recognize the Jewish God as the only true God, and the Jewish religion as the only true religion (Isaiah 2:3; 11:10; Micah 4:2-3; Zechariah 14:9). There will be no murder, robbery, competition or jealousy. There will be no sin (Zephaniah 3:13). Sacrifices will continue to be brought in the Temple, but these will be limited to thanksgiving offerings, because there will be no further need for expiatory offerings.”
Most Jews falsely still do not believe that Jesus was the Messiah. or that he simply did not fulfill the mission of the Messiah as it is described in the biblical passages here cited above. Jesus did not do any of the things that the Jewish scriptures said the Messiah would do. According to their interpretation.
Part of the revelation given to Apostle Paul by Christ was that physical Israel, the Jews, were no longer the chosen people because of their bloodline. Paul expresses this part of his revelation in Galatians 3: 3-7, After the Cross, though, the chosen bloodline teaching itself became anti-Christ. Romans 2: 28-29: “For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh:29. But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.” Paul is saying that anyone of any race becomes a true Jew by the Spirit, by having the Spirit in his heart. We know that at a time earlier than the time of Christ that the northern tribes were called Israel and the southern tribes Judah, or Jews. But in the first century when the New Testament was written, the term Israel and Jews referred to the same people. And interestingly John in Revelation 2: 9 and 3: 9 supports what Paul says about a true Jew being anyone who is led by the Spirit. The teaching of Christian Zionism that all physical Israel, the Jews, now remain the chosen people, is part of the strong delusion of II Thessalonians 2: 10-12 and of the snare of Luke 21: 35.
The Christian Zionist dispensational lie was introduced 200 years ago by the holy ghost haters, John Darby and the Plymouth Brethren, and also Scofield…
Read the New Testament and see for yourself now that Heaven still waits awaits the Jewish, the NATION OF ISRAEL return TO God, Jesus Christ, and rather NOT TO THE past PROMISED EARTHLY LAND!
“And Solomon reigned over all kingdoms, from the river [i.e., the Euphrates] unto the land of the Philistines, and unto the border of Egypt… For he had dominion over all the region on this side of the river, from Tiphsah even to Azzah, over all the kings on this side of the river” (1 Ki. 4:21, 24. See also 2 Chron. 9:26).
And the above Land promise was duly fulfilled to all of Abraham’s natural “seed,” and the Bible contains clear records of the fact, and the promise in its fullness runs to Abraham’s true “Seed”, all those persons who are in Christ
“For the promise that he should be the heir of the world, was not to Abraham, or to his seed, through the law, but through the righteousness of faith” Romans 4:13
“Know ye therefore that they which are of faith, the same are the children of Abraham”; Galatians 3:7..
, “And if ye be Christ’s, then are ye Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise.” Galatians 3:29
There were 3 Jewish dispersions from Israel, but there was a promise of a return the first 2 times and not the 3rd time.
.NOW WE VALID CHRISTIANS DO BASE THE VALID DOCTRINES ON THE NEW TESTAMENT SUBSTANTIATION BY JESUS OR THE APOSTLES, NOT JUST ON THE OLD TESTAMENT REFERENCES.. BY THE WAY THERE ALSO IS NO NEW TESTAMENT REFERENCE, THAT SUBSTANTIATED THE 3RD JEWISH RETURN TO THE HOLY LAND, THE PROMISE LAND. NOW SOME PEOPLE WILL STILL USE ISOLATED VERSES TO JUSTIFY THEIR DISTORTED DOCTRINES. STUDY AND READ THE BIBLE FOR YOURSELF.. LISTEN TO GOD AND NOT MERE MEN..
Now natural Israel has no longer any standing before God, or any part in His future purposes. The New Testament Scriptures makes it now certain that the national restoration of Israel after the flesh is not a part of the revealed will of God, but that the reverse is true. God regards natural Israel earthly kingdom with utter detestation, and He will never restore it, Next when John the Baptist preached to the Jewish people, saying, “Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand,” he was not announcing the setting up again of the earthly throne of David for Israel as many Jews, some professing Christians falsely hoped, believe it would happen again.
Even as to the promised land, This land belongs today not the to Jews, or Arabs but solely belongs to Jesus Christ and his seed… and it was initially conditionally given now too to the Jews, they next had failed God’s requirement., the condition of continually exercising one’s faith in God for a start and not in self..
Mat 21:28 KJV) But what think ye? A certain man had two sons; and he came to the first, and said, Son, go work to day in my vineyard. 29 He answered and said, I will not: but afterward he repented, and went. 30 And he came to the second, and said likewise. And he answered and said, I go, sir: and went not. 31 Whether of them twain did the will of his father? They say unto him, The first. Jesus saith unto them, Verily I say unto you, That the publicans and the harlots go into the kingdom of God before you. 32 For John came unto you in the way of righteousness, and ye believed him not: but the publicans and the harlots believed him: and ye, when ye had seen it, repented not afterward, that ye might believe him. 33 Hear another parable: There was a certain householder, which planted a vineyard, and hedged it round about, and digged a winepress in it, and built a tower, and let it out to husbandmen, and went into a far country: 34 And when the time of the fruit drew near, he sent his servants to the husbandmen, that they might receive the fruits of it. 35 And the husbandmen took his servants, and beat one, and killed another, and stoned another. 36 Again, he sent other servants more than the first: and they did unto them likewise. 37 But last of all he sent unto them his son, saying, They will reverence my son. 38 But when the husbandmen saw the son, they said among themselves, This is the heir; come, let us kill him, and let us seize on his inheritance. 39 And they caught him, and cast him out of the vineyard, and slew him. 40 When the lord therefore of the vineyard cometh, what will he do unto those husbandmen? 41 They say unto him, He will miserably destroy those wicked men, and will let out his vineyard unto other husbandmen, which shall render him the fruits in their seasons. 42 Jesus saith unto them, Did ye never read in the scriptures, The stone which the builders rejected, the same is become the head of the corner: this is the Lord’s doing, and it is marvellous in our eyes? 43 Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof. 44 And whosoever shall fall on this stone shall be broken: but on whomsoever it shall fall, it will grind him to powder. 45 And when the chief priests and Pharisees had heard his parables, they perceived that he spake of them. 46 But when they sought to lay hands on him, they feared the multitude, because they took him for a prophet.
When the lord therefore of the vineyard cometh, JESUS CHRIST, what will he do unto those JEWISH husbandmen? 41 They say unto him, He will miserably destroy those wicked JEWISH men, and will let out his vineyard unto other GENTILE husbandmen, which shall render him the fruits in their seasons.
I love Israel , has nothing to do with the reality they are no longer entitled to claim the Promised land as I have detailed.. or that Most of them will not go to heaven Romans 2 6 Who will render to every man according to his deeds: 7 To them who by patient continuance in well doing seek for glory and honour and immortality, eternal life: 8 But unto them that are contentious, and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, indignation and wrath, 9 Tribulation and anguish, upon every soul of man that doeth evil, of the Jew first, and also of the Gentile; 10 But glory, honour, and peace, to every man that worketh good, to the Jew first, and also to the Gentile: 11 For there is no respect of persons with God. Moses and the Hebrew Prophets repeatedly state that the land belongs to God and residence there is always conditional. For example, in Leviticus 25: ‘The land must not be sold permanently, because the land is mine and you are but aliens and my tenants’ (Leviticus 25:23). The Scriptures are very clear: residence in the land was always conditional. Notice the “if” and “because” in Deuteronomy 19:8 If the LORD your God enlarges your territory, as he promised on oath to your ancestors, and gives you the whole land he promised them, because you carefully follow all these laws I command you today—to love the LORD your God and to walk always in obedience to him. (Deuteronomy 19:8-9) Through your own fault you will lose the inheritance I gave you. I will enslave you to your enemies in a land you do not know, for you have kindled my anger, and it will burn forever. (Jeremiah 7:4)
God declared that his judgment upon Israel for her unbelief would include removal from the Land. The Jews had also been expelled from their promised land 3 times already, and will be expelled again in the future according to Biblical prophecy by some persons.. Most of Israel they still do not acknowledge Jesus as Saviour and Lord. Today even the majority of Jews do not believe in Jesus and they have broken covenant with God and thus have no divine claim at this time to the land God had once promised them. And the future of the land promised to Israel becomes subsumed under the promise of God that all believers will “inherit the land … because the entire new heavens and new earth will be Christian owned. Some people claim that God will establish a Jewish state during the Millenium although there is no New Testament support of this? http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2013/03/18/left-out-of-the-kingdom-of-god-jews-included/
Clearly even do note the contrast between the old and New Testament next in the Sermon on the Mount, Jesus takes a promise made to the Jewish people concerning the Land from Psalm 37, and applies it to his own followers living anywhere in the world. Psalm 37:11 But the meek will inherit the land and enjoy great peace. vs Matthew 5:5 Blessed are the meek, for they will inherit the earth. (Acts 3:24-25) says” Indeed, all the prophets from Samuel on, as many as have spoken, have foretold these days. And you are heirs of the prophets and of the covenant God made with your fathers. He said to Abraham, ‘Through your offspring all peoples on earth will be blessed. “ Paul similarly asserts, ‘If you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise.’ (Galatians 3:29). Even Apostle Peter claims that the promise made to Abraham (Genesis 12:3; 22:18) were being fulfilled among Christ’s followers. No wonder the Jews hate the Bible and the Christian even these days.
Rev George Muller, famous founder of the Bristol orphanage, was one of the best-known early Plymouth Brethren figures . Mr. Muller also had a public falling-out with Darby. Those who sympathized with Darby became the “Closed Brethren” and those who sided with Muller were known as “Open Brethren.” The two strains of Brethrenism endure even today. A It was Rev George Mueller who had introduced D L Moody to the Plymouth Brethren, and it seems when George Muller of Bristol came up against the Dispensationalist doctrines of the Brethren movement, he severed all connection with it.
While the Brethren even say they Believe the Bible is the Word of God, they too clearly do have this unholy, desperate and complicated need to reinterpret almost every passages of the Bible suitable to their own liking. Dispensational theology is an intricate web of deceit with various teachings. “A scorner seeketh wisdom, and findeth it not: but knowledge is easy unto him that understandeth” (Proverbs 14:6)
Dispensationalism had it’s origination amongst the Plymouth Brethren in the early 1830′s. The father of dispensationalism, John Nelson Darby, educated as a lawyer and ordained Anglican priest, was one of the chief founders of the Plymouth Brethren movement, which arose in reaction against the perceived empty formalism of the Church of England.
Dispensationalists have long been rightfully accused of teaching multiple methods of salvation. Dispensationalists FALSELY view Israel and the church as having distinct eternal destinies. Israel will receive an eternal earthly Kingdom, and the church an eternal heavenly Kingdom. In contrast, Christian theology has always maintained the essential continuity of Israel and the church. The elect of all the ages are seen as one people, one sole Church now, with one Savior, one destiny, Heaven.. T
The Brethren boasted, from their very beginning in the nineteenth century, that their teachings represented a wide departure from the doctrines of their predecessors and contemporaries. So it was not surprisingly the Brethren movement was both refuted and rejected rightfully now by the majority of professing real Christians even todate where the realted dispensationalism rightfully is something to be avoided like the plague.
Their false doctrine of the separation of Israel and the Church, the foundation of dispensationalism, can be clearly seen for what it is, false, by anyone who has a knowledgeable grasp of the New Testament. It is those persons ignorant of the scriptures, those persons not in their Bibles who are the ones so easily deceived by them still too
The Plymouth Brethren Dispensationalists movement itself has constituted a radical even a false change from the historic teachings of Christianity. The Brethren oft repeated assertion that the present voice of the Holy Spirit is located in the utterance of men is an affront to the Holy Spirit. “But in vain do they worship me, teaching as their teachings commandments of men. For, leaving the commandment of God, ye hold what is delivered by men to keep”, Mark 7: 7-8. .
Dispensationalism is a system of theology that was first popularized by John Nelson Darby, 19th century British evangelist and forerunner of modern Christian fundamentalism. The false Scofield Reference Bible, written by Cyrus Ingerson Scofield, popularized dispensationalism in the United States. The world’s Jews must return to Israel for a dispensational interpretation of prophecy to be fulfilled. Now half of my relatives are Darby Brethren and I know what big liars here they too are.. The false Brethren wrestling of Holy Scriptures to support a line of dispensational teaching contrary to the actual written word of God is still unacceptable
Of the Scofield Reference Bible, John Wick Bowman says, “This book represents the most dangerous heresy currently to be found within Christian circles” (Ibid., p.588).
WE NEED TO FIRSTLY ASK THE JEWS TO REPENT OF ALL THEIR WRONG DOINGS, OF NOW TRYING TO RECONQUEST THE PROMISED LAND, EVEN STILL NOW, IN THE FLESH., RATHER THEY ARE STILL RETURN TO JESUS CAUSE THEY THE JEWS ARE ALL STILL ALL GOING TO HELL EVEN IF THEY NOW ARE LIVING IN THE LAND OF ISRAEL FOR WITHOUT JESUS TODAY AS THEIR LORD AND SAVIOR EVERYONE, THE JEWS INCLUDED THEY GOES TO HELL.. BY THE WAY THE TERM CHOSEN ONE REFERS TO THE CHRISTIANS ONLY IN THE NEW TESTAMENT NOW AND NOT TO THE JEWS.
We all should not show false partiality to the Jews, even now wrongfully overlook all of the Jews wrong doings, even the fact that the Jews have been killing Christians even in Lebanon, no partiality even because once in the past they the Jews were God’s chosen people. Now natural Israel has no longer any standing before God, or any part in His future purposes. The New Testament Scriptures makes it now certain that the national restoration of Israel after the flesh is not a part of the revealed will of God, but that the reverse is true. God regards natural Israel earthly kingdom with utter detestation, and He will never restore it,
Next when John the Baptist preached to the Jewish people, saying, “Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand,” he was not announcing the setting up again of the earthly throne of David for israel as many Jews, some professing Christians falsely hoped, believe it would happen again. Even Heaven awaits the Jewish return TO God, Jesus Christ, and rather NOT TO THE PROMISED EARTHLY LAND BUT TO THE NEW HEAVENLY Jerusalem.. (Rev 3:12 KJV) Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my new name.
The only main portion of the Bible that you really need to read, to follow is the New Testament because we are no longer under Old Testament covenant, law – essentially the New Covenant, the New Testament replaces the basic requirements of the Old Law and the Prophets of the Old Testament.
All Believers should still embrace the whole Word of God is written by God but now they do not follow the non applicable Old Testament laws, rituals. The Old Testament has now been superseded by the New Testament. We are not under the Old Testament laws but under those laws solely in the new testament… the law of the spirit..(Rom 8:2 KJV) For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death. The sole basis of the Christian faith today, which is why it is also called the New Testament as well, is not at all the Old Testament Judaism but the New Testament Jesus.
The true Christians since Jesus Christ next always left their old Jewish Synagogues all together… and all Christian Jews, Messianic Jews too need to do this today as well, also they are supposed to give up their Jewish roots, Jewish culture, Jewish religion when they accept Jesus Christ as their master, lord and savior . Some clerics, theologians, and scholars have worked hard to recover the supposedly historical Jewish Jesus. why? Ironically this rather was aided also by the Jews, Judiazers, even the false Christians themselves who falsely wanted it seems to promote their own self importance, the false value of the now rather false, obsolete old Judaic religion, and it’s also still the false observation of the Old testament letter of the law over the New Testament spirit of the law approach. It is an ungodly act still too.
(Acts 20:29 KJV) For I know this, that after my departing shall grievous wolves enter in among you, not sparing the flock. 30 Also of your own selves shall men arise, speaking perverse things, to draw away disciples after them. 31 Therefore watch, and remember, that by the space of three years I ceased not to warn every one night and day with tears. (1 Tim 4:1 KJV) Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;
Old Israel being God’s people for they still will go to hell LIKE MANY PROFESSING CHRISTIANS WILL if they personally reject Christ and do not continue to follow after him. (Mat 7:21 KJV) Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. (Rom 2:9 KJV) Tribulation and anguish, upon every soul of man that doeth evil, of the Jew first, and also of the Gentile; 10 But glory, honour, and peace, to every man that worketh good, to the Jew first, and also to the Gentile:
Like John Darby, Scofield removed damned, damnation and hell from the Bible: John H. Gerstner, in his 1991 book, Wrongly Dividing the Word of Truth: A Critique of Dispensationalism, states emphatically and without mincing words: Dispensationalists it seems to compensate for their often rejections seem to like to bash the Catholics. Charismatic, Pentecostal Christians too now. They also seem to be too often a english speaking white man’s club too.
DISPENSATIONALSIM , AMONGST IT’S UNDENIABLE MANY BAD, FALSE TEACHINGS NOW TOO, IS A LIAR’S, A COWARD’S, A HIRELING’S FALSE COP OUT, A FALSE EXCUSE FIRSTLY NOT TO REALLY REPENT OF ONE ‘S PERSONAL SINS, FOR ONE NOT TO REALLY FOLLOW AFTER GOD AND HIS WILL FOR THEM, AND FOR ONE FALSELY NOT TO BE CULTURALLY ANDS SOCIALLY INVOLVED IN DEALING WITH THE EVIL OF THIS WORLD, HOPING TO AVOID PERSECUTING FROM THE JEWS AS WELL BY NOT ASKING THEM TO REPENT, OR TO SEE THEIR NEED OF ACCEPTING JESUS CHRIST AS THEIR MESSIAH, SAVIOR. TRULY A DIABOLICAL THEOLOGY.
But what had really surprised me most of all besides how they the Plymouth Brethren do falsely abuse others is as to how many Brethren preachers actually lie, practice deceit, and it is so easy to find it too, when you look for it, and do start to verify everything they say, write too to determine now whether what was said it is so, true or false , even as per the Bible.
Dispensationalists who unacceptably have a very negative view of the latter days, end times on this world, now it seems to compensate for their often rejections by even main stream Christianity, and as I have even recently now too often now personally witnessed, even on my sites they have to still it seems falsely bash, slander, they falsely call others mentally unstable, biblically unsound, not real Christians, lie against the Pentecostals Christians too even in envy it seems cause they the Pentecostals undeniably are it seems one of the fastest growing group today in Christianity.
These abusive, immoral rather Brethren who often do hide, disguise them as Gospel, Bible believing Christians only, are an unacceptable part of the un Holy wars on the net too.. The Brethren dispensational views and related false doctrines have undeniably now been refused, refuted and not accepted by main stream Christianity too. Dispensationalists, Brethren do now falsely deny the “second blessing” , a personal religious Holy Spirit experience after which the believer is set aside for, equipped by God for life.
The Brethren with all of their supposedly Biblical Studies Foundation, Bible studies, or actually Bible passages reinterpretations do say that the teachings of the Charismatic and Pentecostal Movement are false and that “The major doctrine the Pentecostals and Charismatics is that they do not understand is the supposed fact that Christians are not in the Old Testament times, but live in now a different dispensation ” as defined by the Brethren alone.. You falsely have to go by, play by, live now by the new Brethren, man made rules, interpretations, standards and not God’s.
“and a wonderful discovery that a long controverted point is now settled; the unpardonable sin is declared to be speaking against the Darbyites.” C. H. Spurgeon whom himself was lied about, slandered, bashed by the Brethren.
So where then is the Promised Land finally? It is being prepared for you in heaven if you accept Jesus Christ as your own Lord and Savior now firstly. For a Christian, to dwell in the land of promise is also a figure, or shadow, of the blessings of living by faith in Christ, in peace, and leaving the wilderness behind. The “wilderness” pictures the progressive journey of a believer to a mature faith. Thus, the land is compared to Eden, where the saints have access to the tree of life, and the promise of immortality. [Ezekiel 36:35; Joel 2:3]